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Yes there is a naming convention. I think this should be
made very clear in the developer manuals (the naming convention
for language files- one might think: "heck, if i specify the
file in the config file, Drake should find it ).
My
language files were named with the actual language name inside
the filename. I removed that and it worked.
Now the
component works, i'll have to customize it.
Unfortunately i couldn't get the latest revision, i've never
done that. I installed rapidSVN but it downloaded a bunch of
folders. Two of them (marc and saba) seem the largest, but i
would say too large (one has over 3000 files )
Isn't that a little too much for a "lite" CMS? Is trunk
the folder i'm looking for? Ok, i'll
be back with more after more testing Take
care
catasoft
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 06:21
Anonymous
I got the svn latest. Used the drake sources from the trunk
folder. This version has new issues:
[li]com_simplecart_orderform- gets installed ok (with
the additions from my previous messages concerning
languages)
[li]ro language file is not installed,
no folders created under lang and no errors thrown
[li]when i go to install/uninst components,
com_simplecart_orderform is not shown (installed column is
blank)
[li]i cannot create a hidden menu item,
because com_simplecart_orderform is now shown in the component
list to choose from
So... new issues sparkled I think i'll use
the stable release for now. What do u think?
legolas558
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 08:30
Anonymous
Quote:
i'm afraid i have to
contradict you: if you only specify the components inside the
<i18n> tags, but not use the path (inside the .zip
package) lang/en/components, and lang/ro/components, it
will not work (doesn't know where to get the files from) and will
give Fileystem errors... Could you please see if this is
correct and maybe make it clearer in the component xml
Documentation what this "components" folder refers to
(source/destination/both).
If the "ro"
language files folder does not exist the "ro"
localization files will not be copied...it's normal. It refers to
both, but source is under the root path while destination is
under lang/xx/
Quote:
if my component has a language file that is not
part of the main install (meaning there's no ro folder under
lang) again: FileSystem error): Quote:
Failed to move file
::/private/temp/com_simplecart_orderform.zip_ext/com_simplecart_o
rderform/lang/ro/components/simplecart_orderform.romanian.php
to
::/lang/ro/components/simplecart_orderform.romanian.php
This is because the language folders are not created.
After i created the "components" folder under
lang/ro, i worked smoothly.
I'm not sure if this is he
correct behavior... maybe folders should be created? If in the
future a language will be added but meanwhile modules still have
their multilanuage files here...
I am not sure that
you might want language files for a language that is not
installed! Anyway, this is the current behaviour...we might
discuss about alternatives in another topic Quote:
Even after correct
install, language files present under corresponding folders etc,
i get this exception: Quote:
c:\easyphp\www\drake_papyrus\components\com_simplecart_orderform\simplecart_orderform.php(16):
E8 Use of undefined constant _CONTACT_TITLE - assumed
'_CONTACT_TITLE'
The language file is (for now) copied
from the contact component, like the entire order_form component
to say the truth. Yet, it says it can;t be found.
My
conclusion: the right files are not included as lanuage for this
component.
Is there any naming convention???
I'll be back with more
Yes, there is a naming convention: you must use the component
name in the filename
legolas558
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 08:32
Anonymous
Quote:
Unfortunately i
couldn't get the latest revision, i've never done that. I
installed rapidSVN but it downloaded a bunch of folders. Two of
them (marc and saba) seem the largest, but i would say too large
(one has over 3000 files )
Isn't that a little too much for a "lite" CMS? Is trunk
the folder i'm looking for?
It is always the trunk folder when you
look into repositories
legolas558
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 08:39
Anonymous
Quote:
ro language file
is not installed, no folders created under lang and no errors
thrown
This is OK, since the "ro" language
folder did not exist
Quote:
when i go to install/uninst components,
com_simplecart_orderform is not shown (installed column is
blank)
Did you also check in the second page? Quote:
i cannot create a
hidden menu item, because com_simplecart_orderform is now
shown in the component list to choose from
Do you mean
that it is not shown? Please try with the latest
revision and tell me
Quote:
I think i'll use the stable release for
now. What do u think?
0.4.5 is going
live...I'd better like if you could help me to fix it
catasoft
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 09:03
Anonymous
Quote:
Did you also check in
the second page?
Yes i did Quote:
Do you mean that it
is not shown? Please try with the latest
revision and tell me
Yes, unfortunately this was with
the latest revision.
Quote:
0.4.5 is going live...I'd better like if you could
help me to fix it
With pleasure, i'll indicate everything i
see. For instance, contact form .Javascript breaks on this
expression (it is never executed and mail script is never called-
task=post): Code:
!email_regex.test(emailForm.contact_email.value)
I replaced it with my function: Code:
function
checkEmail(addr){ var
email=/^[A-Za-z0-9][\w-.]*[A-Za-z0-9]*@[A-Za-z0-9]*([\w-.]*[A-Za-
z0-9]\.)+([A-Za-z]){2,4}$/i; return(email.test(addr)); }
Now it
works I'm very close to finish line, i created an admin component
after all to be like a center of command.
By the way,
$d->Redir("") doesn't redirect to previous page (if
called from admin component), i had to call $d->Redir($_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER']);
When is
0.4.5 going live? Will there be a nice patch? Cause
otherwise i work in vain
catasoft
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 09:17
Anonymous
I just tried to install the romanian language:
[li]in current release, it fails (if ro is created
under lang, it sait FileSystemError. If i delete it, it is
created but then FileSystemError for subFolders, so there's
nothing i can do here, there's definetly a problem with the
folder/subfolder creation, and i had this during component
install too :(
[li]in latest svn trunk: it works :(
What
can i do now? I can't install the language :(, and if i use
the latest svn i can't create component instances in the hidden
menu. So, me lost again By the way, i even had to create an admin
component. Isn't there a way to just use installed components? Or
create a component called "Component instances" (which
manages component instances) instead of that hidden menu. It's
not elegant nor clear with the hidden menu...
catasoft
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 09:23
Anonymous
Ok, apparently copying files in the lang folder made it work. So
Drake DOES read folders and updates the admin interface
sometimes...
THEN why doesn't it see templates
also? If i copy a template in the templates folder, it is
not seen, but if i copy a language it is dicovered and
displayed...
This is not a very uniform behavior and
it gets users confused Now let's see if this language is actually
used (i selected it from global config->Language but front end
still displays in english, even though i translated some of the
strings to Romanian, so for now it is not used).
legolas558
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 09:35
Anonymous
Quote:
Quote:
Did you also check in
the second page?
Yes i did
It
should be fixed now
Quote:
Quote:
Do
you mean that it is not shown? Please try with
the latest revision and tell me
Yes, unfortunately
this was with the latest revision.
As said in
the previous post, should be fixed now (revision 3920)
Quote:
Quote:
0.4.5 is going
live...I'd better like if you could help me to fix it
With
pleasure, i'll indicate everything i see. For instance,
contact form .Javascript breaks on this expression (it is never
executed and mail script is never called- task=post): Code:
!email_regex.test(emailForm.contact_email.value)
I replaced it with my function: Code:
function
checkEmail(addr){ var
email=/^[A-Za-z0-9][\w-.]*[A-Za-z0-9]*@[A-Za-z0-9]*([\w-.]*[A-Za-
z0-9]\.)+([A-Za-z]){2,4}$/i; return(email.test(addr)); }
Now it
works
Are you using the latest SVN version?
Quote:
I'm very close
to finish line, i created an admin component after all to be like
a center of command.
Great! Quote:
By the way,
$d->Redir("") doesn't redirect to previous page (if
called from admin component), i had to call $d->Redir($_SERVER['HTTP_REFERER']);
Try with $d->Redir($my->PreviousPage());
The
best approach would be to send in the POST request the item id to
redirect to
Quote:
When is 0.4.5 going live?
Before tomorrow!
Quote:
Will there be a nice patch? Cause otherwise
i work in vain
There are always
patches, we are backward compatible since v0.2!!!!
legolas558
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 09:40
Anonymous
Quote:
I just tried to
install the romanian language: in current release, it fails
(if ro is created under lang, it sait FileSystemError. If i
delete it, it is created but then FileSystemError for subFolders,
so there's nothing i can do here, there's definetly a problem
with the folder/subfolder creation, and i had this during
component install too :(
You cannot create language files for romanian
simply creating an empty "ro" folder. You'd better read
the rest of the documentation (e.g. about language files etc.).
You have to use the Drake CMS facilities to create a new
language, e.g. the admin backend com_language component (language
manager)
Quote:
What can i do now? I can't install the language :(, and if
i use the latest svn i can't create component instances in the
hidden menu. So, me lost again
What
do you mean by "latest"? Did you try with revision
3920?
Quote:
By the way, i even had to create an admin component.
???
Quote:
Isn't there a way to just use installed
components? Or create a component called "Component
instances" (which manages component instances) instead of
that hidden menu. It's not elegant nor clear with the hidden
menu...
It is not a matter of
elegancy...and not a matter of the hidden menu only: if you
active a component, it should have a menu item. So you should
place it into the mainmenu or some other menu (this is the
current design - which might be discussed elsewhere if we want
); if you
choose to place it into the hiddenmenu, it is because of some bad
design on your side, it's not a Drake CMS issue because
the correct way would be to have a visible menu item for
the component The hiddenmenu is a sort of hack
legolas558
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 09:44
Anonymous
Quote:
Ok, apparently
copying files in the lang folder made it work.
That's because you went from Paris to Berlin passing through
New York Any chance you will try the admin backend language
manager? Quote:
So Drake
DOES read folders and updates the admin interface sometimes...
It does when it is necessary
Quote:
THEN why
doesn't it see templates also? If i copy a template in the
templates folder, it is not seen, but if i copy a language it is
dicovered and displayed...
This is not a very uniform
behavior and it gets users confused
that's
because you are copying non-Drake CMS templates, I bet.
Quote:
Now let's see
if this language is actually used (i selected it from global
config->Language but front end still displays in english, even
though i translated some of the strings to Romanian, so for now
it is not used).
As explained in the FAQs,
you should change your own language to see another language. Go
edit your user and you'll see
A hardcore trip into
Drake CMS we're having
catasoft
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 09:55
Anonymous
Quote:
You cannot create
language files for romanian simply creating an empty
"ro" folder. You'd better read the rest of the
documentation (e.g. about language files etc.). You have to use
the Drake CMS facilities to create a new language, e.g. the admin
backend com_language component (language manager)
You really must think i'm stupid or something... Of course i
didn't, but i copied English fully, edited the xml and common.php
and the language was seen ok... I know there are guidlines
to follow, but i just want the darn thing to work. For me, to
create a new language is much easier to start for instance from
english and translate all define's. As long as it stays UTF-8, i
don't see why it wouldn't work :ermm:
Quote:
What do you mean by
"latest"? Did you try with revision 3920?
No, i can't get it from work, all ports are blockd. I meant the
one from 6 hours ago (3917). I see u've been busi Quote:
It is not a matter of
elegancy...and not a matter of the hidden menu only: if you
active a component, it should have a menu item. So you should
place it into the mainmenu or some other menu (this is the
current design - which might be discussed elsewhere if we want
); if you
choose to place it into the hiddenmenu, it is because of some bad
design on your side, it's not a Drake CMS issue because
the correct way would be to have a visible menu item for
the component The hiddenmenu is a sort of hack
I don't want/need menu items. My current project is the
perfect example: it is a back-end logic component (it just
receives input and redirects, like a controller). Why would i
MUST create a menu for that?
Anyway, maybe my project
is sort of an exception, this is why i keep bumping into strange
aspects...
And... elegance is an aspect in all
experienced programmer's code (clean code
and logical clear intuitive solutions are all part of the
meaning). I'm not talking 'bout my code, just in general (:d)
catasoft
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 10:05
Anonymous
Quote:
Any chance you will try
the admin backend language manager? ;)
That's what i
tried but in my revision it didn't work... r3917 was ok.
Quote:
:angry: that's
because you are copying non-Drake CMS templates, I bet.
u
think? Quote:
As explained in the
FAQs, you should change your own language to see another
language. Go edit your user and you'll see
Aha, it
worked I was logged in as admin while working on it. If i'm
not logged in i assume it will work Thanks P.S.
I'll get the latest revision once i get home and play with it
catasoft
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 10:39
Anonymous
I was using the language component and i must say it makes
translating Drake (almost) a pleasure BUT when
i went to visit the front end:
Quote:
==Server== Drake
v0.4.4 Beta rev.3866 Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Win32)
PHP/4.3.10 PHP version: 4.3.10 Protocol: HTTP/1.1 OS: Windows NT INFCATA 5.1 build 2600 Database: gladius Subsite: no
==Client== User agent: Mozilla/5.0
(Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061206
Firefox/1.5.0.9 Accept-charset:
ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7 Accept-language:
en-us,en;q=0.5 User lang: ro
The strings with errors aren't in the
language files, they are provided by the OS i guess.
Have u ever seen this one be4?
legolas558
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 10:42
Anonymous
Quote:
Quote:
You cannot
create language files for romanian simply creating an empty
"ro" folder. You'd better read the rest of the
documentation (e.g. about language files etc.). You have to use
the Drake CMS facilities to create a new language, e.g. the admin
backend com_language component (language manager)
You really must think i'm stupid or something...
I am
sure that you are not stupid,
but...communication is a form of art, and we are pretty failing
here, sorry (English is not our mother language) Sometimes I have to guess
the bits of information that are not expressed (for example, you
did not state how you created the language files, so I had to
induce that)
Quote:
Of course i didn't, but i copied English
fully, edited the xml and common.php and the language was seen
ok...
WHY did you not use the language
component? That adds to confusion...
Quote:
I know there
are guidlines to follow, but i just want the darn thing to work.
For me, to create a new language is much easier to start for
instance from english and translate all define's. As long as it
stays UTF-8, i don't see why it wouldn't work :ermm:
Ok, it will never work. Simply because neither
I remember all the small bits of things to keep in mind while
manual editing; that's why the component is suggested to be used.
If you use manual editing, at some point there will be some weird
bug and we will not be able to understand where it comes from
Sorry but I
am telling this to you because it already
happened so many times..
Anyway, copying the
"en" folder should have worked (afaik)
Quote:
Quote:
What do you mean by
"latest"? Did you try with revision 3920?
No, i can't get it from work, all ports are blockd. I meant the
one from 6 hours ago (3917). I see u've been busi
Ok, so get that one from the Developers Area, it gets
refreshed every two hours
Quote:
Quote:
It
is not a matter of elegancy...and not a matter of the hidden menu
only: if you active a component, it should have a menu item. So
you should place it into the mainmenu or some other menu (this is
the current design - which might be discussed elsewhere if we
want );
if you choose to place it into the hiddenmenu, it is because of
some bad design on your side, it's not a Drake CMS issue
because the correct way would be to have a visible menu
item for the component The hiddenmenu is a sort of hack
I don't want/need menu items. My current project is the
perfect example: it is a back-end logic component (it just
receives input and redirects, like a controller). Why would i
MUST create a menu for that?
Good
question. I will answer second the current Drake CMS logic, which
is something that we can eventually improve of course.
You must create a menu item (which is the component instance)
because so you will set the correct access level for that
component instance. There is such mechanism because if you will
want to disable the component, you will not need to remove the
folder.
Quote:
Anyway, maybe my project is sort of an exception, this is why i
keep bumping into strange aspects...
I
think that you are not bumping into very strange aspects..some
areas are quite unexplored. As far as you keep "on
track" with the CMS logic, there will be no problem (neither
now or in future!)
Quote:
And... elegance is an aspect in all
experienced programmer's code (clean code
and logical clear intuitive solutions are all part of the
meaning). I'm not talking 'bout my code, just in general (:d)
I cannot judge my own code, however talking
about the CMS logic I believe that the Drake CMS logic is much
clearer and ordered than the Limbo CMS logic from which we
started from. A lot of re-design has been done, things are not
more complex but simply undocumented: sometimes you get into
errors because you think you are dealing with Limbo CMS, and
that's not! The core is 100% changed.
There is still
room for improvements, I know, but we have to make them in the
correct way; so please don't think that I state "it is this
way and so will remain". I am stating "it is this way
for these reasons, how can we correctly improve this?"
legolas558
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 10:57
Anonymous
Quote:
I was using the
language component and i must say it makes translating Drake
(almost) a pleasure BUT when i went to visit the front end:
[...]
Have u ever seen this one be4?
This error happened because your system uses CP1250 as
the default encoding, and PHP's mb_convert_encoding() does not
have tables for it. Nobody had ever reported this.
Please try with the latest revision (also from the developers
area), this bug should be fixed now.
catasoft
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 11:07
Anonymous
Great My components/module/drabot are almost complete. Soon i'll
experiment with the online revision, and try to get everything to
work there.
Oh, another small issue: when backing up
database it also saves module/component info. BUT if i restore it
in a new install, module/component/drabot files -of course- are
not present (physically).
Even the new revision
DIDN'T LET ME UNINSTALL THE MODULES (which are'n there). I just
wanted to clean the DataBase before reinstalling the components
in the new clean install.
I'll try to see if anything
has changed. If not, from ground zero
legolas558
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 11:14
Anonymous
Quote:
Great My
components/module/drabot are almost complete. Soon i'll
experiment with the online revision, and try to get everything to
work there.
Good! Quote:
Oh, another
small issue: when backing up database it also saves
module/component info. BUT if i restore it in a new install,
module/component/drabot files -of course- are not present
(physically).
Even the new revision DIDN'T LET ME
UNINSTALL THE MODULES (which are'n there). I just wanted to clean
the DataBase before reinstalling the components in the new clean
install.
The "dead" database
entries cannot removed because the entry would
not be really removed. The XML file contains
processing instructions for the uninstall operation (see doc
components.htm), if the XML file (which is a physical file) is
not present, it is not possible to uninstall the entry because it
would only remove the database entry while the rest (for example,
specific database tables) would still be there. So you have to
restore a database in the exact same physical
configuration which generated it, and this is a necessary thing
in my opinion (otherwise infinite problems would raise).
You are still trying to "make the darn thing work",
are you? Well this thing has no hacks inside it, it works the way it
works and only that way. Having only 1 way to work, the best, is
in my opinion clearer than having "shortcuts" or
"hacks" to have it work
Quote:
I'll try to see
if anything has changed. If not, from ground zero
As far as you follow the documentation (which always
talks about the "standards" we use in Drake CMS), you
will never have to start from ground zero
legolas558
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 11:19
Anonymous
Quote:
Quote:
Any chance you will
try the admin backend language manager? ;)
That's what
i tried but in my revision it didn't work... r3917 was
ok.
Nothing changed about the language
manager...and the bug you reported here should have happened also
with r3917, was not?
Quote:
Quote:
:angry: that's because you are copying non-Drake
CMS templates, I bet.
u think?
Templates from other CMSes have to be adapted.
Quote:
Quote:
As explained in the
FAQs, you should change your own language to see another
language. Go edit your user and you'll see
Aha, it
worked I was logged in as admin while working on it. If i'm
not logged in i assume it will work Thanks
No
problem When you are not logged in the browser language tells Drake CMS
what language to pick. Otherwise (when you are logged in) you can
temporarily change the language clicking a flag of mod_lang (if
that module is present and shown), or even permanently modify the
language from the admin backend users management area or from the
frontend "Edit user details" page. This was explained
in the FAQ
catasoft
Re: Simple ShoppingCart component/modules...
13 July 2007 11:33
Anonymous
I just got r3921, installed everything, everything works fine.
But when tried to run the site with the new language, the same
CP1250 problem occurs...
How can that be? Wasn't it
fixed? Or did you just fix it (meaning later than r3921, which is
the online version of the moment)
Simple ShoppingCart component/modules... 
).
) 
I think i'll use
the stable release for now.
