What should I do about the "Special Language Resources" part with instructions that I didn't understand about commons.php (I'm not a web coder)

And I thought all the translation files that I'll edit will be located under. "drakefolder/lang/tr/" .tr is for turkish.

Is there other files about the translation in anywhere else on host?

I have no time to keep going over documentation after the translation but I think over to write a guide for web and local installation. And provide neccessary files packed (with turkish lang) together.

Thanks for your interest in advance.
Regards

Want to start a Turkish translation but I have some conflicts about the process.

What should I do about the "Special Language Resources" part with instructions that I didn't understand about commons.php (I'm not a web coder)

And I thought all the translation files that I'll edit will be located under. "drakefolder/lang/tr/" .tr is for turkish.

Is there other files about the translation in anywhere else on host?

And if you want to check click for direct access lang files on my test host

I have no time to keep going over documentation after the translation but I think over to write a guide for web and local installation. And provide neccessary files packed (with turkish lang) together.

Cos installation of Drake is extremly easy and the installation guide wont take more than a page
Thanks for your interest in advance.
Regards

I decided to move my tranlating (test) drake to remote host. I've checked the sourgeforge but there is too much of thing and I still got some confusions about the location of translated files (anywhere else but "drake folder/lang/tr" tr is for turkish.

Also in documentation just a few seperate files are spoken and seems all the documentation over sourgeforge and drake docs will take more time than translating

And also, sourgeforge site sucks cos of bloat scripts and working quite slow and gives periodic failures.

So, I found a better way to solve this. I'll move to remote host where drake folder will have full permissions. I preserve one of my idle domains to that.

I'll give the FTP pass to one of drake developer and let him to go and take files easy. Even it can be handled over a standart browser.
I'll inform about about every stage of translation via email or here like xyz.files completed, a.php and b.php completed etc.

So if its ok I'm waiting for a PM from legolas or any developer to give the address and parameters.

Regards

That's not how it works; there are already rules, we cannot make exceptions, otherwise anybody new in the project could introduce its own new rules...

I will explain how it works:

1. you read the official documentation's Translators manual


2. * I've read al on Drakes documents but have no time for sourceforges guide like a book.


3. you subscribe to the drakecms-translators mailing list


4. * Hope its done?


5. you read the most important archived messages on the drakecms-translators mailing


6. * Where are they? Nothing in guide. If in forum its also ok.


7. you register at SourceForge.net


8. * I did


9. you get assigned the translation task by a project administrator (after having asked for it)


10. * You did [li]you either use SVN to commit the language files to the online repository or use the latest released version and post the full translation (as attachments) to your translation task tracker[/li]


11. * What is SVN and where is tracker's folder and how to send. Sourceforge's interface is weird.

It is required to update the translation some days before (at your option, and if you have SVN obviously) or after the official release to keep the official translator role.

If you have ideas or any other question after having read the documentation, ask us.

***The SVN thing***

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Sure. But I've translated more than 20 programs (even some in google) most of them was not open sourced and I did for a license (they were commercial) but even that none of them was dedends on indefined procedures. They usually just say, "take that xml, lr8, lang... etc file, convert it and send." And I do

After, in mailing list I receive a email that tells take new resource, we have updates. I take the resource, it is mostly turkish but the new strings about new functions. I translate the left and send back.

Please consider this message as a report about the problems over translation system and guide.

I'm quite busy till 1 year and I'm doing these in very limited times. Translation runs fast cos I'm enough experienced on translating several programs and know how to handle without stucking on grammar ifrastructure between english and turkish and also translating clearly without creating words longer than the original string (causes translated string not to fit on originals place) so I'm fast to handle it in limited time but...

This is not the first sourceforge project but the first sourceforge project that needs a follow up over sourceforge's web site. Maybe this matters.

Now the thing that I want to explain is I'm near to the end of translate, and I promise to follow all new releases

... but want just a thing.

Translation worksfine on my host and computer. But I'm in trouble with sending it to you because "I want to support" Cos Drake worths support. And developers of this kind of soft also worths support. Drake's really nice and sure that it will shake te cms arena and I'll be glad to be a part of it (even for, just a translation)

But translation is not a full or a half time business. Some people can ofcourse, how nice to have too much of time but I think you must give a change to the people with limited time. So translation procedures must be easy. And easy means (depends on my experiences) a translation process mut be started in an hour after the decision is made.

So the procedure that I write about my translations before explains what is easy.
In fact the translation interface of Drake is much more better than most of the softwares that I translate. As usually had to use a file diff analyzer to find new strings on new releases lang resources.
But Drake tells me how many of/how many resources translated in a drop down list. Perfect.

So there is no problem about the translation. The matter is just
How to send?
How to receive the updated resources of new releases?

Hope clear.

Now the SVN thing

The svn thing handles that procedure, it's clear but what is svn? Think it's (Sub Version S.? something).
Did you noticed, I've scanned all the documentation about Drake translation nothing says that SVN is bla bla etc.

Documentation just says refer the SVN and links dosent work.

Says upload with SVN but upload to where? There is no turkish folder in translations list.

Says turtoise SVN and that soft didnt like my win installer Funny. waiting in folder I'll download updated installer o check.

And, I've find the documentation in SF and takes too much of pages that takes more than translate (this matters of time)

I just need a doc tells SVN (the famous) is bla bla.

Download it, click X insert Y
Select Z and do R you're ready

Now ready to use it.

Or send the files to us. OK
And edit the changes in every new release and send us back again. Also OK

Now %70 percent of translate completed and I didnt be able to submit.

And still didnt understand how new strings work. I've found the english lang follow page and it was full of weird strings.

Which model does drake use? Just take the new lang files and edit the new strings.
Or find the strings from a huge list, and find it where are these located in (in files) edit it (20 times more difficult)

Hope that its clear. I dont have enough time for checking a huge list (hope not works like that) But translating over Drakes interface never matters. An update is matter of minutes

you read the official documentation's Translators manual
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you read the most important archived messages on the drakecms-translators mailing
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What is SVN and where is tracker's folder and how to send. Sourceforge's interface is weird.

So?
Could I have change to follow and support?

I've found the post archive of translators. Checked out and following there now I'm working over the GNU licence and flag (its easy) topics.

The turkish translation that linked on GNU offical site has been moved and I'm working on that. There are some translations in turkish and I think it needs an analyze to choose the most reasonable one. But most of documents tells that in a translation you need to give a link to the original GNU document and tell that translation is just let people to understand but the one you must consider legally is the orginal one (link comes here)

And take a fewresearch on internet about this tortiuse (or like that:)soft and seem do a lots of thing but it dosent work without integrating to file browser (but commandline) thats not good.

Anyway I tought that why drake dosent have a file submit module integrated?

My translations nearly complete. Inst that possible for me to click a button and drake will send my translations to related remote folder for public use. And also drake can import the new sources to translate.

That will be perfectly fast easy and easy to understand and a lots of people can start translation without looong loong discusses and lost time.

I think tis kind of thing (an instant translate kit inside) will make Drake the most language supported CMS ever.

Why?
Cos the translation menu is under hand in admin panel and I know a lots of people (who refers me in this kind of things) needs to translate his/her favorites but dont know how to do.

Not sure but the idea sounds easy for people wo has coded a cms like drake already.

An instant clik an begin type tranlation.

When finished, you open the Turkish translation task tracker item and post a comment saying "ready and verified for vx.x.x" with a zipped attachment of the tr folder.

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Did you noticed, I've scanned all the documentation about Drake translation nothing says that SVN is bla bla etc.

And, I've find the documentation in SF and takes too much of pages that takes more than translate (this matters of time)

??? Who said you should read SF.net documentation? You don't have to.

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Ok that way is perfect for me at the moment. If Drake moves too much fast (hope will) and I start to have troubles with following up I'll try the SVN
But (sorry again, a question) I have a problem with that way also. I have tried to simulate send one but there is no option for attachment. I said maybe in the next screen but dosent an emty entry gone there (also dosent allow to delete sorry for trash
Just guide me to how to attach. Still hate the interface of SF :)

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As I said, documents about (only) TRANSLATING. I'm a bit lazy also cos didnt scanned the other parts of documentation. But I'm not a coder. Just translating. And in fact not that much out of sense

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That was not about Drake. It was about SVN doc over SF but seems created for idiots and starts from A B C's with a lots of unneccesary thing thats why a short doc becomes a book. Thats why I quit read.

Thanks a lot for help and spended time. I usually write long entrys and answering takes long too I can understand that I'm a trouble in support:)
But last please (which I wite in the beginning of this topic.) How could I Attach a zip file to the task tracker.

What to click? Is there a hidden optinons tab or else?