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I hope that current Admin template (r4717, available on SVN) will
not be set as a default in 0.4.8, because it looks.. bad? Light
blue header, gray menu toolbar, dark gray buttons toolbar, white
background of sections, again (second??) dark gray buttons
toolbar and white footer.
Logout link in top right
corner of header?
I prefer old, good version Please make
further changes before releasing 0.4.8.
legolas558
Re: A new look of Admin template?
30 October 2007 15:41
Anonymous
Quote:
I hope that
current Admin template (r4717, available on SVN) will not be set
as a default in 0.4.8, because it looks.. bad?
I agree
that it looks bad, but I don't think that the previous one looked
good - it's just that we were used to it, I think.
Quote:
Light blue header,
gray menu toolbar, dark gray buttons toolbar, white background of
sections, again (second??) dark gray buttons toolbar and white
footer.
I have restored my previous
"vanilla" version, which is too much white...
Quote:
Logout link in
top right corner of header?
That's exactly where
it previously was, it has just been moved a bit more on the
top
Quote:
I
prefer old, good version Please make
further changes before releasing 0.4.8.
Does it
look OK now?
stigi
Re: A new look of Admin template?
30 October 2007 17:12
Anonymous
Yes, now looks better, although: 1) Second toolbar - is it
really needed? It looks 'strange' with buttons on top bar aligned
to a right side, and buttons from bottom bar aligned to a left
side 2) There's too little space between Logout icon and
Logout text (IE issue)
Overall: I think this is a good
way that theme should go, but you know it can be better (and
should be)!
BTW: There are several conflicts while adding new
Admin template, starting from 'selecting a new template doesn't
make any changes in Admin backend' (I've had to override the
directory name and ID of my admin template to 'default' to see
it), and ending on 'dissappearing images'. Just try to look how
many crazy things you can encounter
legolas558
Re: A new look of Admin template?
30 October 2007 23:39
Anonymous
Quote:
Yes, now looks
better, although: 1) Second toolbar - is it really needed?
It looks 'strange' with buttons on top bar aligned to a right
side, and buttons from bottom bar aligned to a left side
It's a transition: the top bar will only contain buttons which
not operate on list items
Quote:
2) There's too little space between Logout
icon and Logout text (IE issue)
Did I already
concur that it looks bad?
Quote:
Overall: I think this is a good way that
theme should go, but you know it can be better (and should be)!
I have just outlined how the new layout should be, preferring
praticity
Quote:
BTW: There are several conflicts while adding
new Admin template, starting from 'selecting a new template
doesn't make any changes in Admin backend' (I've had to override
the directory name and ID of my admin template to 'default' to
see it), and ending on 'dissappearing images'. Just try to look
how many crazy things you can encounter
That's an area that has rarely been debugged!
stigi
Re: A new look of Admin template?
31 October 2007 17:21
Anonymous
There's something new under
/branches/blake/admin/templates/ on SVN
In
this version (0.1) no icons changed. I'm going to do that in
v0.2. How can I change icons size from Home page (and only from
Home page) to larger?
legolas558
Re: A new look of Admin template?
01 November 2007 10:46
Anonymous
I've got to say that I really like it A few
tips: I would replace the orange of subheaders with the same
color of the main header (see in Global config the "Global
Configuration" color vs the "General Drake CMS and
server settings" color)
And the menu does not
contrast very well because it's black (menu) on black (background
page); maybe it could be silver/bluish? I have no idea
I forgot: I like 3D buttons which are actually 3D, but it's
just my opinion
legolas558
Re: A new look of Admin template?
01 November 2007 10:55
Anonymous
I don't like the fact that the page gets an external URL - the
Drake CMS ugly status image was sort of mandatory so that we do
not use that trickery: on some servers you cannot retrieve an
external URL via PHP, while the image will always work - even
without javascript.
stigi
Re: A new look of Admin template?
01 November 2007 12:27
Anonymous
Quote:
A few tips: I
would replace the orange of subheaders with the same color of the
main header (see in Global config the "Global
Configuration" color vs the "General Drake CMS and
server settings" color)
Good idea.
I'll probably change them in next version.
Quote:
And the menu
does not contrast very well because it's black (menu) on black
(background page); maybe it could be silver/bluish? I have no
idea
I've checked several solutions, and
found out that whatever color I'll put together with 'black',
there is always a too large contrast between them. So I've left
it black.
Quote:
I don't like the fact that the page gets an
external URL - the Drake CMS ugly status image was sort of
mandatory so that we do not use that trickery:
That generated image (status.png) is looking REALLY BAD
with a black template, because of the background color (cyan?).
Maybe you can change it's script to get background color as a
parameter by GET method? So I can pass background color (and text
color) to it's link (&back=black&text=white)? Anyway,
because I've left out image about the latest version, I had to
produce information about it in other way.
The best
way would be creating a link (or button) near installed version
number, called 'Check', so an user can see the latest version
only when he wants it (in a text format), not everytime he'll
change the Admin page (you can speed-up page loading time,
especially on localhost) OR to load version number
always when entering Administration section only
one time and not anymore (in that session)..
Quote:
on some
servers you cannot retrieve an external URL via PHP, while the
image will always work - even without javascript.
That's why it is disabled by default (+ because it makes
working in Administration backend slow).
stigi
Re: A new look of Admin template?
01 November 2007 14:30
Anonymous
I can't change Help -> About
page, because it's using built-in styles in
components/about/about.common.php:
Quote:
<big
style="color:navy; font-weight:bold">
<td bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
I've put it in a bug tracker.
About mentioned
button/link, something like Update mechanism
would be nice - with cached information about latest SVN version,
and retrieval of new version after clicking on
Update link.
legolas558
Re: A new look of Admin template?
01 November 2007 14:58
Anonymous
Quote:
Quote:
I don't like
the fact that the page gets an external URL - the Drake CMS ugly
status image was sort of mandatory so that we do not use that
trickery:
That generated image
(status.png) is looking REALLY BAD with a black template, because
of the background color (cyan?). Maybe you can change it's script
to get background color as a parameter by GET method? So I can
pass background color (and text color) to it's link
(&back=black&text=white)? Anyway, because I've left out
image about the latest version, I had to produce information
about it in other way.
I will implement
fg=00FFCC and bg=00FFDD
querystring parameters
Quote:
The best way would be creating a link (or
button) near installed version number, called 'Check', so an user
can see the latest version only when he wants it (in a text
format), not everytime he'll change the Admin page (you can
speed-up page loading time, especially on localhost) OR to load
version number always when entering Administration
section only one time and not anymore (in that
session)..
The image is engineered to be
cached every 12 hours (by the client)...it does not slow down
anything, you just get it once - or am I wrong? Try yourself to
get the image: on the 2nd and further attempts, it will be taken
from cache - unless you change the querystring
Quote:
Quote:
on some
servers you cannot retrieve an external URL via PHP, while the
image will always work - even without javascript.
That's why it is disabled by default (+ because it makes
working in Administration backend slow).
Does
the status image really slow down the backend browsing? I am not
sure about this, I think it does not affect browsing at all...
legolas558
Re: A new look of Admin template?
01 November 2007 15:02
Anonymous
Precisation about the querystring parameters for status.png.php
remote file:
Code:
fg = 000000 black color of the text nbg = FFFFFF white color used when the querystring contains a
non-valid version string obg = 00FF00 green color used when
revision is OK ubg = FF0000 red color used when user needs
to update sbg = 00CCCC cyan color used when user is using a
testing SVN revision
stigi
Re: A new look of Admin template?
01 November 2007 15:46
Anonymous
1) Sometimes image is not displayed (page needs to be refreshed
once or twice) 2) Can you please add also possibility to
change the font (style and size)?
Quote:
Does the status
image really slow down the backend browsing? I am not sure about
this, I think it does not affect browsing at all...
I was writing about fopen which is
slowing down pages a bit. I have no idea about image.
I like it; however, black should be used for the
"normal" status (obg), I would use a different color
for SVN status (like to say: hey, you're working on SVN - don't
expect this to work)
Quote:
BTW: 'Total hits' still works or it's
structure has been changed?
It works when
stats are enabled (and it is suggested not to enable them); the
default template correctly shows them only when they are
calculated
legolas558
Re: A new look of Admin template?
01 November 2007 16:43
Anonymous
Quote:
1) Sometimes
image is not displayed (page needs to be refreshed once or
twice)
We all know that IE is a buggy
browser - we have to live with it Quote:
2) Can you please add
also possibility to change the font (style and size)?
It would not make sense, since the picture should then have a
different size too...
Quote:
Quote:
Does the status image really slow down the backend browsing? I
am not sure about this, I think it does not affect browsing at
all...
I was writing about fopen
which is slowing down pages a bit. I have no idea about image.
Actually that's not a good thing in an admin
template..
stigi
Re: A new look of Admin template?
01 November 2007 17:24
Anonymous
Quote:
I like it;
however, black should be used for the "normal" status
(obg), I would use a different color for SVN status (like to say:
hey, you're working on SVN - don't expect this to work)
I'll change it's background color to brown.
However brown color of text would be so much better - is it
possible? :/
Quote:
It would not make sense, since the picture
should then have a different size too...
Exactly. This image is a little bit to big (in my opinion). I
think that it's better to use 2 rows (instead of 3): Latest
version & Your Version, remove Alpha/Beta Testing message and
put 'SVN' word to 2nd row. That way image can be smaller (with
the same text), or more clear by increasing font size (with the
same image size). What do you think about it?
Quote:
Actually that's
not a good thing in an admin template..
Yeah, but I was desperated
legolas558
Re: A new look of Admin template?
02 November 2007 07:21
Anonymous
Quote:
Quote:
I like it;
however, black should be used for the "normal" status
(obg), I would use a different color for SVN status (like to say:
hey, you're working on SVN - don't expect this to work)
I'll change it's background color to brown.
However brown color of text would be so much better - is it
possible? :/
As explained before, using
the fg querystring parameter
Quote:
Quote:
It would not
make sense, since the picture should then have a different size
too...
Exactly. This image is a little bit
to big (in my opinion). I think that it's better to use 2 rows
(instead of 3): Latest version & Your Version, remove
Alpha/Beta Testing message and put 'SVN' word to 2nd row. That
way image can be smaller (with the same text), or more clear by
increasing font size (with the same image size). What do you
think about it?
I agree that the image is
horrible and could be improved/optimized, but of course it
"does the job" for now.
I have tried many
combinations but I were not able to compact it any further; the
message is necessary, because we can also advise about important
issues through the image (e.g. "critical update needed"
etc.)
stigi
Re: A new look of Admin template?
15 December 2007 00:59
Anonymous
Template Black Admin v0.2 has been released.
Code:
Changes
in 0.2: - new icons added (Aqua Candy Revolution) -
fixed bug in <th> image - changed color of header
(proposed by legolas558) - removed unused fopen function
- removed
unused styles from index.php - changed header of index.php
(new system!) - colors of version image have been completely
set - tested with Drake CMS 0.4.9