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trex1512
Branding of Drake CMS
01 June 2007 08:53
Anonymous Hi All

With the increasing spread of Drake CMS and now many actually running live sites even though we are still in beta development it is time for a simple request and reminder.

The request is that if you heavily modify a template please try and maintain a link on your front page to Drake CMS or a link in an About page..

The reminder is to read and heed the GNU/GPL. Thanks.

There are a small group of developers and a growing group of testers that have put a lot of time and effort into Drake CMS reaching the stage it is at now, all for free.

If you use Drake CMS in a commercial environment and then come here for free help you may be rebuffed.


Thank You for your time.
 
marc
Re: Branding of Drake CMS
08 June 2007 18:41
Anonymous Hi Trex1512,

please help me

I understand your request, but what do you want to say with "the reminder" ?
I must have a Link to Drake CMS, the GPL says so?!
No.

Do you mean people who don't share her things ?
Is there anybody who sells it as its own ?

Thanks for an answer
(and excuse me for my poor english)


Marc
 
legolas558
Re : Re: Branding of Drake CMS
08 June 2007 20:16
Anonymous Quote:

I understand your request, but what do you want to say with "the reminder" ?
I must have a Link to Drake CMS, the GPL says so?!
No.

The GPL does not say that you must, the GPL says that you must not say that you own copyright for Drake CMS.

But, we (The Drake Team) say that it would be fair to put such link on the template because it would help the growth of Drake CMS, a really small tribute to Drake CMS and its related free services (both present and future).
We will not offer support to unfair Drake CMS users, they can anyway download and use Drake CMS as they wish and also contribute to each aspect of the development and community, but we cannot offer support to these users, both for ethical and for advertising reasons.
I hope you understand: if we offer our help to users which help Drake CMS and to users which do not help, what would be the gain at helping Drake CMS?

Quote:

Do you mean people who don't share her things ?

Even if we develop open source, we do not pretend other people to develop open source too. We do not pretend anything at all to be correct, since Drake CMS is released under the GPL and that's all.

We are just saying that it would be fair to put that link on websites which are powered by Drake CMS smile

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Is there anybody who sells it as its own ?

Well...I don't know, anyway if he does (with or without the Drake CMS branding) he will be sued by our lawyers. devil

Thanks for pointing out these questions, Marc, and sorry for answering in place of trex1512; I hope the situation is now clearer to you.

If you have more questions (which are not covered by the GPL FAQs) feel free to ask!

Thanks smile
 
trex1512
Re : Branding of Drake CMS
08 June 2007 22:50
Anonymous Quote:
The request is that if you heavily modify a template please try and maintain a link on your front page to Drake CMS or a link in an About page..


Wording is, a "request" and "please try and maintain", it does not say you must have.

But, good community manners should acknowledge the long and hard work of others that you are the beneficiary of. Then when you ask for help, it is free, like the CMS.

Quote:

The reminder is to read and heed the GNU/GPL. Thanks.


and even though it would be good to acknowledge at least the name Drake CMS, you are not required to.

BUT you are reminded of this The License
 
marc
Re: Branding of Drake CMS
08 June 2007 23:10
Anonymous Hi

many thanks in both-ways for your answers.
I know the situation from Joomla, but misunderstood the announcement.

O.K., Restart

Edit by legolas558: part of the post was off-topic and has been moved to this new topic
 
phpmaster
Re : Re: Branding of Drake CMS
09 June 2007 14:06
Anonymous Quote:
The GPL does not say that you must, the GPL says that you must not say that you own copyright for Drake CMS.

But, we (The Drake Team) say that it would be fair to put such link on the template because it would help the growth of Drake CMS, a really small tribute to Drake CMS and its related free services (both present and future).



If I get something so nice as DrakeCMs for free,
I wouldnt mind putting some credits and a link to Drake Home.

There was only once in my life, when I REMOVED any links
to a free Open Source application at my website.

The main developer did NOT treat me fair and nice
at his support Forum.
I had suggestions and modifcations done to improve (several days of working)
and pointed out a couple of bugs. (CSS)

After this clash, I thought it to be only a fair response
to do the same as he did:
.. be a little bad to him devil



We have a saying in my country:
As your call is - Your reponse will be.

If you call out and say I am a crooked one
you should not expect me to be very kind, in return.


I agree with legolas fully 100%.
It is our own interest, to support those people here.
If they get many 'helpers' to code and use DrakeCMS
..we, the EndUsers, will ultimately benefit from it.

As the code improves for future versions.


Regards, phpmaster smile
 
legolas558
Re : Re: Branding of Drake CMS
09 June 2007 15:59
Anonymous Quote:

We have a saying in my country:
As your call is - Your reponse will be.

If you call out and say I am a crooked one
you should not expect me to be very kind, in return.


I agree with legolas fully 100%.
It is our own interest, to support those people here.
If they get many 'helpers' to code and use DrakeCMS
..we, the EndUsers, will ultimately benefit from it.

As the code improves for future versions.

Thanks to phpmaster for having given a better explanation: it is actually a matter of helping your own software, because Drake CMS is designed, developed and mantained for our customers, YOU. smile
 
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